This time of year makes me philosophical, or something. Maybe the early nightfalls turn me more inward than usual. So I find myself in a dispute with someone called “Atasca.” Here’s a synopsis:
Atasca: How can there be a natural explanation for the supernatural occurrence of the creation of the universe?
Me: You have already answered your own question. If you have already decided that the creation of the universe was a supernatural occurrence, then by definition there could not be a natural explanation for it. You might as well ask how a triangle could have four sides.
What makes you think “the creation of the universe” was supernatural? And if the universe were created by some sentient being who transcends the universe, why would you call that “supernatural”? Why not take it to mean that “natural” includes more than you thought it did? Moreover, how do you know that there even was an “occurrence” that might be called “the creation of the universe”?
Atasca: I haven’t decided anything except the definition of supernatural: ‘of or relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe.’ Merriam Webster decided this, not me. The evidence (most scientists believe this I understand) suggests that there was a beginning to the universe. You may believe there wasn’t a beginning and that is fine but you are going against the evidence. At the beginning everything we know was created (or came into being) – either by design or by chance/accident/ whatever. Nature was created at this time. Nature or anything else cannot create itself so there must have been something not natural – supernatural – that explains it.
Me: How do you know that?
Atasca: I am having trouble with your question about how do I know that something cannot create itself. Please explain how “something” that did not exist, was nothing, non-information, what rocks dream about, is able to create anything, much less itself?? This is as much a philosophical question as scientific.
Me: I don’t know, but I’ll go out on a limb here and say there’s a 100 percent chance that you have never seen anything created ex nihilo. So you don’t even know if that’s possible, do you?
There might be more by the time you read this post. But there it is for now. It’s been a while since I’ve bothered with one of these disputes. Aren’t they all pretty much the same? That’s what I argued in “Getting Beyond Irrelevance,” almost a year ago:
A God that is said to exist because it is supposed to be logically necessary, like an Unmoved Mover, or something similar, is nearly meaningless. The logical necessity of God does not affect how people live their lives, provides no moral or ethical guidance, and will not suddenly reward us with a rash of theophanies when enough people apprehend the argument.
Likewise, even if we knew whether the universe had a beginning, what difference would it make? Even so, some people want to keep talking about it. Maybe there is still something to learn.
Most of my responsive questions in the dialogue above were intended (perhaps clumsily) to suggest that admitting ignorance of how or whether the universe was created is only the least honest one ought to be. But more thoroughgoing honesty might even compel one to admit that it’s not even possible to know what it might mean to say that “the universe had a beginning” or “the universe was created.”
That makes at least two tough conundrums. They’re related. On the level of language, what happens when we put words together to say things whose meanings are impossible to fathom? (Or can we?) And in thinking about reality, can you even imagine what the beginning of the universe or creation ex nihilo would look like?
Knowing the answers won’t make a lick of difference to anything. But they sure are fun to think about. Enjoy.