Taking an Opposing View of Religion
[I]f you wish to take an opposing view of religion—specifically Catholicism—that’s your privilege. However, when you do so, please use the facts in context and don’t simply say, “The pope has no right to tell a woman what to do with her body” without putting the discussion points in proper context. It’s usually those who don’t understand spirituality and obedience; or one who has a particular ax to grind, who rail the most against Catholicism.
He was writing in response to my comment:
[W]hat, exactly, is your gripe with how others assess religion, religious beliefs, and the people who hold those beliefs? Are you saying that nonreligious critics are simply wrong about the facts upon which they base their rejection and criticism? That they are willfully ignorant of the facts? That they are incapable of ascertaining the facts?
In that particular discussion, I didn’t say anything about the “right” of the pope to “tell a woman what to do with her body,” so I’m not sure where he picked that up, but Tasy does evoke some interesting questions: Does the pope have such a “right”? How would understanding “spirituality and obedience” inform the answer to that question? And does that question have anything to do with opposing religion in general, or even Catholicism in particular?
The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy has a pretty good definition of “rights”:
Rights are entitlements (not) to perform certain actions or be in certain states, or entitlements that others (not) perform certain actions or be in certain states.
You can take a broad definition like that and apply it across lots of contexts. For example, the “right of free speech” in the United States is an entitlement to all citizens that the government not abridge certain speech unless it has a good enough reason to do so. (Depending on the type of speech, the government justification for abridgment must be more or less compelling, but never irrational.) Or one party to a private contract may have a right to receive payment from the other party to that contract, in exchange for goods delivered or services rendered, which can be expressed either as an entitlement that the other party perform the action of paying, or an entitlement to commence a lawsuit to compel the other party to pay. Many people also believe that everyone has a “natural right” to things like “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”
The first kind of right above is a “constitutional right” protecting citizens from their government, created in the Constitution. The second kind is a “contract right,” created when two parties mutually agree to be bound. The third kind is a “natural right,” arising from the simple fact of being human, and identified according to a theory that human beings should not be the means to others’ ends.
In the context of the pope “tell[ing] a woman what to do with her body,” what is the “right” and where would it come from? Tasy suggests that a person must understand “spirituality and obedience” before answering those questions and he is probably correct. First, here is an example: Even though I am not a woman, the pope has absolutely no right to tell me what to do, with my body or otherwise, because I am not a practitioner of his religion or a citizen of Vatican City. (Some Catholics may even agree that the pope has no “right” to tell them what to do even though they are practitioners, based on their own understanding of how the Roman Catholic Church works internally. But that is not the point of my example; if the pope has any “right” to tell anyone what to do, it certainly does not extend to people who are not members of his religion or citizens of Vatican City, of which he is head of state.)
But a woman who, for “spiritual” reasons, practices obedience to the pope, may, by practicing the religion in accordance with her beliefs, effectively “grant” the pope a “right” to tell her what to do, with her body or otherwise. The quotation marks in the previous sentence should be explained: First, to the extent that the word “spiritual” may refer to a supernatural realm or entities inhabiting one, I doubt its meaning. Second, as I understand the “spirituality and obedience” concept raised by Tasy, practitioners who believe themselves bound to follow the instructions of the pope do not really grant him the right to do so, in the sense that such authority is a separable part of the practice that could be granted or revoked, in their perspective. Third, I remain skeptical that people who are obedient to the pope are so because he has a right to tell them what to do.
Even so, I still agree with the statement (which Tasy presented to me, not I to him) that “[t]he pope has no right to tell a woman what to do with her body.” He himself has decontextualized the statement by presenting it that way. Who is “a woman”? Any woman? Women are not subject to the pope simply by virtue of their being women and his being the pope. They are subject to him only by virtue of their “spirituality and obedience” to him, as Tasy suggests. Moreover, even when they do become subject to him, it is not by, for example, a constitutional, contractual, or natural right. Rather, it is by submission to a whole package of religious tenets—including the acceptance of a theological program and committed practice of the rituals of the church. And I would argue that they have something like a natural right, as well as a constitutional right in the United States, to reject that package unilaterally, without permission of the pope, and put themselves in a position identical to mine: absolutely not subject to the desires, wishes, pronouncements, or exhortations of the pope.
But what does any of this tell us about “tak[ing] an opposing view of religion”? Nothing. While I have expressed myself in a way that I hope is clear, I have used a lot of words and highfalutin concepts to say something that is wholly unremarkable, even tautological: Roman Catholic women who believe they are bound by what the pope says are bound by what the pope says—which is to say their behaviors are consistent with their beliefs—or they are hypocrites. Or, even more simply and broadly, religious people are religious people only so long as they have religious beliefs.
The problem is that Tasy either misunderstands the critics of his religion, or he has never encountered criticism that was thought out carefully. People who criticize what the pope says about abortion or birth control are not criticizing his authority to believers or his “right” to “tell them what to do”. Instead, they are criticizing what they see as the detrimental real-world effects on the women who submit to the beliefs and practices that require them to order their reproductive affairs as the pope urges. In other words, no matter the “spiritual” benefits to Roman Catholic women for avoiding hypocrisy, the immanent adverse effects created by the behaviors compelled by that non-hypocrisy outweigh the benefits.
While Tasy and other advocates of religion or Roman Catholicism are free to assert that “spiritual” benefits will always outweigh immanent adverse effects, their critics’ perception that the women allegedly accruing those “spiritual” benefits still experience needless suffering that could be avoided but for their practice of religion remains untouched by the defense that the behaviors of these women are driven by “spirituality and obedience.” When critics of religion observe that women could achieve a higher level of education, obtain a better standard of living, and tip the scales against the power monopolized by often-abusive men by using birth control and having the ability to safely abort unwanted pregnancies, how does it address their concern to say that these women are motivated to do otherwise by “spirituality and obedience”? Rather, the implication of that response is that “spirituality and obedience” necessarily relegate women to the whims of reproduction and the desire of men. The problem, from the outsider perspective, is not that these women simply need to say, “The pope has no right to tell me what to do with my body!” The problem is that the very practice of the religion itself—at least as Tasy appears to conceive it—forecloses against the possibility of their even considering such a proposition.
All of which is simply a roundabout way of pointing out that critics of religion are not ignoring the problem of “spirituality and obedience,” but are outraged that “spirituality and obedience,” despite their emotional appeal, are so effective at diverting the care and attention of religious practitioners away from tangible and immediate problems and toward intangible and other-worldly concerns. That is not to say, however, that “spirituality and obedience” necessarily have a diversionary effect. Plenty of people have construed “spirituality and obedience” to mean giving attention to every moment of life and being itself. The problem is that religion, especially some forms of it, like Roman Catholicism as practiced by much of its laity, often does have a diversionary effect, and people like Tasy seem to be oblivious to that problem, and sometimes even gleeful in promoting the diversionary effect. Moreover, as many of us have discovered, paying attention to daily problems, practicing care and compassion, and cultivating an ethical lifestyle does not require religious beliefs. So why risk the adverse consequences of the diversionary effect at all? Why not, as many critics of religion do, advocate reducing the prevalence of religion, or doing away with it entirely?
Even though I agree that, for the sake of polite and productive discourse on the matter, critics of religion should do a much better job of understanding religion from the perspective of their opponents, I disagree with Tasy that critics of religion are removing the discussion from its proper context. And while I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt, I suspect that what he really means by “proper context” is that he would prefer to have complete control of how all terms of the conversation are defined. The specially defined terms and internal structure of Roman Catholicism are its strong suit—for insiders. But the persistence of Catholic apologists and polemicists, like Tasy, on using their own terms and definitions while refusing to recognize other perspectives is exactly what they accuse their critics of doing.
The fact that we outsiders fail to reach the same conclusions about, say, “spirituality and obedience” and their consequences, does not mean that we fail to understand those things or account for them in the context of the discussion. To claim otherwise is no different than saying, “You are not allowed to criticize the Catholic church until you become a member,” which in turn is only a veiled way of saying, “I have no way to convince you that Catholicism is right, so I refuse to talk to you until you convince yourself that it is right.” And that is no argument at all.
